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Attendee to organizer time ratios

Time ratios

Attendee timeOrganizer timeRatio
Manifest 2024500ppl * 20h~8mo * 200h/mo6:1
The Curve 2024200ppl * 20h~4mo * 200h/mo5:1
Summer Camp 202450ppl * 30h3ppl * 60h8:1
Mox, week of 3/1520ppl * 30h4ppl * 40h4:1
Feb Trading Camp13ppl * 40h5ppl * 40h2:1
minifest 2024100ppl * 8h30h + 20h16:1
AI4E Hackathon25ppl * 8h10-20h (?)10:1
Typical Hackathon10ppl * 8h1-2h + 4h16:1
Feb Ski Trip10ppl * 30h5-10h + 10h (?)20:1
Taco Tuesday30ppl * 2h2-4h30:1
GBF Party200ppl * 3h20h (?)30:1
PYOL60ppl * 3h4-8h30:1

Observations

  • Parties and fun events have really high attendee:organizer time ratios
    • Maybe works because people entertain each other in a party?
    • Or because parties are good at marketing themselves?
    • Or because expectations tend to be lower for a party?
  • Organizers probably prefer high ratios
    • Economies of scale: usually cheap, on the margin, to add more people
      • Amortizes ~fixed cost of planning across more folks
    • Also takeaway: extending your event time is an easy way to get higher ratios
  • Attendees get more value out of low ratios?
    • More organizer time per attendee time = better experience
    • Similar to in school: students prefer individualized instruction (Bloom’s two-sigma)
    • Explains why Trading Camp should cost so much
  • Conferences involve a lot of planning and upfront cost from organizer, attending one is participating in a kind of distilled
    • Curious about how unconference-y events stack up
  • Kind of want to get Mox time ratio up
    • Right now it’s in an early state. Curious how it compares to Constellation or FAR
      • Steady state, should be able to support 20ppl : 1 staff?
    • Though: maybe venue ratios are just different than event ratios

Questions to ponder

  • How do we improve organizer efficiency or productivity?
    • Tooling, software like Airtable and Partiful?
    • Good venues like Lighthaven (and someday Mox)?
    • Putting “attendees” to work
  • What would a hypothetical event that maximizes ratio be?
    • Many people (party), or very long (retreat, ski trip)
    • Or: very little organizer time (autopilot, like Taco Tuesday)

Caveats

  • Not sure credit allocation is being done correctly in these examples. Might be double-counting or undercounting, esp on venue vs organizer
    • eg for Mox (venue host) vs QTB (organizer), or Lighthaven vs Summer Camp
  • Of course, not all attendee time is created equal!
    • Different kinds of yield from an event
      • Immediate enjoyment
      • Different kinds of relationships formed
      • Learnings and takeaways
    • Quality-adjusted attendee-hours
      • Methodology to collect this?
        • Ask people how much they would pay per hour?
        • Or observe how much they actually pay.
        • Or observe the opportunity cost of the people present (eg higher for famous speakers)
        • Ask people of ratios of time for equal “value” (1h at Manifest vs 3h at minifest)?
  • And not all organizer time is created equal
    • Fulltime organizers have different opportunity costs
      • Eg technical staff might have much higher opportunity costs, but their taste may be important for a hackathon or technical event
    • Planning logistics for an event vs day-of operations are different
    • Meta events like Manifest or Summer Camp have sub-organizers
  • Other costs to organize an event:
    • “relationship” cost, to send invites
    • money, to pay for food/venue/etc
    • focus or “top idea in your head” cost
    • calendar-time (not just clock time)